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When research and fandom collides

posted by [personal profile] katherine_b at 02:34pm on 09/07/2011
I have just been researching material for my thesis, which focuses on the 1943 Rosenstrasse (Rose Street) protest in Berlin. During my work into the history of the street, I discovered that the previous name for the street was Prostitute Alley because, in Germany, "Rose ist die freundliche Bezeichnung für Hure." [Rose is the polite name for a whore.]

The mind, it boggles. (And the imagination kicks in very, very badly....)
Mood:: 'shocked' shocked
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posted by [identity profile] lejays17.livejournal.com at 09:47am on 09/07/2011
*shrieks with laughter* I knew there was something wrong with Rose's character... What a fascinating piece of research you found!

(Kirsty)
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posted by [identity profile] katherine-b.livejournal.com at 10:04pm on 09/07/2011
*lol* It's certainly kept me amused!
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posted by [identity profile] katherine-b.livejournal.com at 10:40pm on 09/07/2011
Ooh, very clever! I wish my classes had given me a way to work such things in! *g*
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posted by [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com at 04:48pm on 09/07/2011
Heheheheheeeeeeee!

It's mean, I know. But I can't help but laugh :-)
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posted by [identity profile] katherine-b.livejournal.com at 10:52pm on 09/07/2011
Heck, I laughed! Actually, it made me imagine how flustered Ten would be if suddenly faced by Belle du Jour/Hannah Baxter.
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posted by [identity profile] pickledminx.livejournal.com at 11:18pm on 10/07/2011
Ooh, you've just given me a delicious image of Rose in period dress... thanks for that! ;)

I've got to finish watching Secret Diary of a Call Girl one of these days... I own the first two seasons on DVD too, I just keep forgetting about it!
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posted by [identity profile] katherine-b.livejournal.com at 02:54am on 11/07/2011
*g* Glad you enjoyed that image!
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posted by [identity profile] sunnsea.livejournal.com at 11:42am on 12/07/2011
xDDDDD
I'm German and I never heard anyone call a whore a Rose. Haha well ok maybe they did in 1943....but bwhahaha so funny! And your icon! What do you have to discuss there?
*is slighty ashamed of not having a clue what that protest was about although I always had an A or a B in history*
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posted by [identity profile] katherine-b.livejournal.com at 12:10pm on 12/07/2011
*g* Well, I have to trust what I'm told in a history of Rosenstrasse:

"Die Rosenstrasse zaehlt zu den aeltesten Strassen Berlins. Bis in den 17. Jahrhundert hinein fuehrte sie den Namen "Hurengasse"... Den als "Rosengasse" oder "Rosenstrasse" wurden damals nicht selten in ironischer Weise Gassen bzw. Strassen bezeichnet, die wegen ihrer Unsauberkeit oder wegen des schlechten Rufes ihrer Bewohner - in diesem Fall sicher eher ihrer Bewohnerinnen - bekannt waren."

As for the protest, it is a rather remarkable but little known even that took place between Feb 27 and March 6 1943. Following the Fabrikaktion, in which the remaining Jews in Berlin were rounded up, those married to non-Jews and primarily in non-privileged relationships were taken to a collection point at 2-5 Rosenstrasse.

On the afternoon of Feb 27, people, mostly women and the wives of those who had been arrested, began to gather outside the building. For seven days, through bombing raids, intimidation and out-and-out threats by the Nazis, they continued to protest, vocally demanding the return of their husbands.

Finally the Nazis gave in. Over several days, those who had been held in Rosenstrasse were released and returned to their families, as well as being accorded the status of privileged Jews, meaning they got better rations, no longer had to wear the star, and were not subject to restrictions in the same way they had been. Some 25 people were even returned from Auschwitz (although they were sent to a work camp, not released).

It is an astonishing and little-known piece of history that I think definitely deserves a wider audience.
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posted by [identity profile] beautifulntime.livejournal.com at 04:06pm on 12/07/2011
Sneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerk. ^_^
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posted by [identity profile] katherine-b.livejournal.com at 10:09pm on 12/07/2011
*lol* Yes, I have an evil, evil mind. But your icon doesn't help.
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posted by [identity profile] tkel-paris.livejournal.com at 04:58am on 07/08/2011
I agree! On both counts!

At least I know what she's talking about with that icon... All hail Eddie Izzard!
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posted by [identity profile] katherine-b.livejournal.com at 05:37am on 07/08/2011
All hail Eddie Izzard indeed!
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posted by [identity profile] tkel-paris.livejournal.com at 04:56am on 07/08/2011
(snorting) I love it! That should be a prompt... Hey, katherine.... want to write something in which Rose gets PO'd...? You could always add something in about how Donna always being called the Doctor's wife whereas Rose was only ever called the girlfriend is a sign of the relative quality of the ladies... Say, Donna's the kind of woman you spend your life with whereas Rose is the sort of girl you sow your wild oats with... ;D
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posted by [identity profile] katherine-b.livejournal.com at 05:36am on 07/08/2011
My dear girl, I already have a fic of that nature in the pipeline thanks to your prompting! But yes, the idea of them as a couple will now feature prominently, just for you...
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posted by [identity profile] tkel-paris.livejournal.com at 06:04am on 07/08/2011
Oh, that's right! I'd almost forgotten about our LJ comments talk about my one prompt! Ooh, are you adding that little detail in?! In any case, I can't wait to see what you did with my prompt! :D
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posted by [identity profile] katherine-b.livejournal.com at 06:33am on 07/08/2011
*g* I hadn't, I promise you. Strange Meetings on Purple Planet is slowly building up steam. Please allow this icon of the Doctor to demonstrate the overall nature of the fic...
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posted by [identity profile] tkel-paris.livejournal.com at 12:51pm on 07/08/2011
Seems appropriate! More than one character in that story is going to be thinking that, I bet...! :D
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